Everyone remembers the headlines, but very few know what happened after the cameras left.

Former Uber CSO Joe Sullivan and his wife, Prathiba, join Jake for an honest conversation about what it was like to navigate one of cybersecurity's most public legal battles—not as a security leader, but as a family.

From media scrutiny and online speculation to preparing their children for the possibility of prison, Joe and Prathiba share the conversations that happened behind closed doors and the resilience that carried them through.

This isn't another incident retrospective. It's a story about marriage, community, parenthood, and what happens when your hardest professional moment becomes your family's burden too.

If you've ever wondered what leadership really costs, this episode is for you.

In this episode:
What life looked like behind the headlines of the Uber incident
How public scrutiny affects spouses and children—not just executives
Navigating fear, uncertainty, and the possibility of prison as a family
Why community became their greatest source of strength
Teaching resilience, honesty, and courage through adversity
How hardship ultimately strengthened their marriage and reshaped their purpose